Buddhist monks turn to fist fights in ‘Nam

Buddhist Monks Turn Streetfighter

Perhaps I was wrong to assume that Buddhism was one of the very few religions exempt of criticism because of its peaceful nature?

On the other hand, it is true that, being in Vietnam, where the only permitted religions are state-sponsored, it could well be that the belligerent monks were, in fact, state sponsored to quell what was effectively a protest against the government.

Still, I have some sympathy for Buddhism. Although it’s a religion which enshrines everything that is not rational, at least it can argue its points better than any Muslim, Christian or Jew and, for one, it’s 100% peaceful (I don’t know what to make of the news article). There is one case I can recall of a Buddhist who committed suicide for political reasons, and that was back in the Vietnam of Nguyen Van Thieu when a monk burnt himself to make a point against the police attacks on Buddhist temples (some of which were justified in that these temples sheltered Vietcong). Yet Buddhism does not canvass or recruit. In fact, one of the distinct positive aspects of Buddhism is that it doesn’t really concern itself all that much with the material world, which is something other religious authorities could do well in taking a leaf out of.

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3 Responses

  1. Unfortunately, Buddhism has not always been immune to bad behavior on the part of its practitioners. Humanity is not perfect and nothing is immune to this.

    In all actuality Buddhism is a very rational belief system. It was heralded by Albert Einstein as being the only religion that did not conflict with science. Of course there has been a great deal of ceremony and ritual added over the centuries and not everything is Buddhism just because it is called that.

    To understand the reality of Buddhist rational thought it is best to begin with some study of the foundation of the Dharma — The Four Noble Truths & The Eightfold Path.

    I’d recommend checking out this link, http://www.buddhanet.net/1-gqga.htm

    I’m not trying to preach or convert anyone. I’m just sharing my take on things, and would be interested in your reaction to it.

    Regards,

    Greg

  2. I can certainly sympathise with the nature of Buddhism and its somewhat Unitarian view of things. That the path to spiritual enlightenment is a personal one is undeniable, were one to seek it. Institutions like the Roman Catholic Church or Islam with a hierarchy of power and fatwahs and edicts selling doctrine can only get in the way of Nirvana.

    I appreciate Buddhism because of its inherently peaceful nature which stems from the belief that this material world is worthless and it’s a place to escape from.

    Plus, to my knowledge it’s the only religion which actively seeks to develop one’s intellectual capacity to the fullest, which is certainly something commendable.

  3. hellos, I know you posted this a long time ago, but just wanted to leave a comment.

    The buddhism we know of nowadays, at least the one the world knows of nowadays is not really the buddhism that I know of. It has been faked by human greed and human nature. Buddhism nowadays with its hundred different factions such as mahayana, Zen, etc etc are actually human revisions of what Gautama said 2500 years ago…

    So in actual fact, the violence that you saw, on the street fighter monk, I would say is pretty much harmless for I have seen monk mobs going down on the streets picking fights with other mobs (which others I dont know)… Today’s buddhism has really been screwed up and I can see why.

    If you would like to study buddhism, I wouldn’t recommend reading translated books by people, or by monks which are also normal people in a sense. I would request that you read the entire Tripitaka in true pali… and well, thats where the sympathy comes in. The tripitaka, is ermm highly complex.. you need to learn pali or sanskirt first which is pretty hard too… and even after doing so, the original tripitaka with around 28 bound volumes is really really really complex… Its more of a logical system and I would say that the complexity of the system is also consistent to a point.

    For example, we define the rational mind into two parts, one is the “thought (sate)” and the other is the “incentive (say ta theik)” which erm I believe sate has 5 different more child node categorizations and say ta theik has another 50 and all of these are interconnected to each other… And on the path to Nibban, there are like a thousand steps of mind control and its respective categorizations which are also interconnected back to the entire other remaining part of the tripitaka. For example, the “24 objects (ne hse lay pyit see)” have a permutation/combination interconnection of 24^24 which is around 1.3337 * 10^33 , and I think it describes the interconnection of all the processes of nature and how they relate to each other. The elegant and compact pali and sanskirt languages make such complexity possible to think of in human words. And to thoroughly understand the connections and meanings, you first have to train your mind until your mind resolution is so good that it you can literally see your thoughts tick in succession… which of cuz is done through meditation.

    Buddhism is cool in the sense that whether it is true or not, somebody who wrote the 28 books with such high complexity must really have a lot of time or otherwise must have been really intelligent to create such a system.

    Thats why because of such complexity, I say that monks, buddhism as described in this traditional sense have gone amok and well, I wouln’t call them the Thanga which is the sacred word for children of the Dhamma, they are just plain phony fake and really, they arent to blame… Nobody can keep up with that kind of ultra complex stuff like 99% of the world wouldn’t understand relativity…

    But I am glad to see that people still view buddhism as the most rational systems still in place, I thought that would have gone by now by depictions in the media of Deities, Goddess, The Journey to the West and very very absurd notions of Karma and Reincarnation which are all quite inaccurate or just plain stupid and not the ones I have read about.

    😀
    urs
    TLT

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